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[personal profile] rosanicus
Hello, I call as I crawl from my cave (the cave is called 'being a primary school teacher')! I have read three Biggles/Gimlet books in the past fortnight and I have a few thoughts, which I will share below.

Biggles in the Orient

An absolutely cracking adventure yarn! I confess I have occasionally struggled with the WW2 books - Baltic is still only about 15% finished on my ereader, and while I love Spitfire Parade for introducing Bertie it's not exactly the strongest of the short story anthologies. This circumvented my apparent struggles here by having the whole plot set somewhere I know very little about, especially during WW2, and with a mystery with just enough red herrings to be satisfying to solve.

Biggles is under so much stress in this book and I can only hope that immediately post-book 666 Squadron get the leave they're owed and smother Biggles in a cuddle pile of some sort. Honestly it's been long enough since I read now that the details have faded somewhat but the scene where he discovers Moorven's crash has definitely stayed with me. He cares so deeply and so immediately about people and it's always a blessing and a curse!!

Gimlet Goes Again

It's been absolutely ages since I read King of the Commandos so it took me a while to rediscover the characters but I had a good enough time with this. The thing about Gimlet is he is absolutely never the POV character (as far as I remember, anyway) so he has this really odd, elusive quality to his character. I loved [personal profile] tweague 's Gimlet&Bertie schoolfic so much for this exact reason - Gimlet is just genuinely inscrutable, and I find it a pretty compelling way to write a character. Unfortunately we also have Cub who is sort of Ginger but bloodthirsty, and Copper and Trapper who are respectively Cockney and Canadian and possibly gay but not much else. I liked that more of the Kittens appeared in this book but they didn't get much play since they were rescued so late. I don't know if I would recommend this series in general but the Biggles & Co cameo in this book definitely makes it a light recommendation to the fandom.

Biggles Foreign Legionnaire

Took me literal months to get past the first two chapters of this, then I read the last 160 pages in one sitting last night. It's a pretty fun read and has a number of excellent moments but I have to admit the experience as a whole left me a little cold. I wished there was more Marcel for one - especially since there's a bit of Marcel whump occurring offscreen! - and also that there was a little more Biggles POV than there ended up being. The entire sequence in Kurdistan was of course wonderful but again it felt slightly sterile, possibly because it starts so late and then has to be resolved within about thirty pages.

I enjoyed Ginger's point of view on Von Stalhein quite a bit, to be fair - especially the part where he notes that Von Stalhein seems to think, just for a moment, that Biggles has shot at him and looks genuinely a bit upset - but AGAIN I just feel like it wasn't enough. I know I have my shipping blinders on for this but I just always want more flirting, okay, and there was barely any! On the plus side I finally have context for a number of fics I read back when I first joined the fandom a year and a half ago (holy shit), so those will be due a reread soon.

Next on the docket is Murder by Air, because [personal profile] black_bentley reminded me Steeley exists and I need to get back on the Steeley polycule wago. For my health. Incidentally, I now have a 'Teacher Reads' display bit in my classroom and am slowly getting over the embarrassment of being honest about it (three Johns in a row...).

Date: 2024-09-23 09:43 pm (UTC)
philomytha: Biggles pulling Angus from the water (Biggles drowning rescue)
From: [personal profile] philomytha
I found it hard to care a lot about the Gimlet books, like you say Gimlet is interesting and he almost has a fun dynamic with Cub, but Copper and Trapper are barely more than cariacatures. Some fun plots, and because I am a simple woman at heart I enjoyed Gimlet Goes Home because it has a triple helping of whump for Gimlet in the middle of it, and I also liked the one with the werewolves.

Orient is a cracking adventure, and yes, Biggles needs so many hugs by the end of it! Sweeps the Desert is another good WW2 adventure with non-stop action and more whump for Biggles...

Date: 2024-09-23 11:12 pm (UTC)
ysande: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysande
Werewolves!! XD WE Johns never fails to amaze me :) (I thought Gimlet’s books were set in the same universe as Biggles’… ie ours)

Date: 2024-09-24 05:40 am (UTC)
philomytha: Biggles carrying a dodo (biggles dodo)
From: [personal profile] philomytha
Well, really they were villains in wolf masks, but it was pretty chilling anyway :-)

Date: 2024-09-23 10:18 pm (UTC)
wateroverstone: Biggles and Algy watching the approach of an unknown aircraft from Norfolk sand dunes (Default)
From: [personal profile] wateroverstone
I don't get on with Gimlet at all. I've read them all and he never fails to annoy me ( especially his obsession with the length of Copper's s hair.In the Orient is one of my absolute favourites Sweeps the Desert is good, too and I have a big soft spot for Delivers the Goods, although I like all the WW2 books really.
Steeley is a gift which keeps on giving.

Date: 2024-09-23 11:11 pm (UTC)
ysande: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysande
I agree with everything you said about Orient! :) I think it’s one of my favourites, everything about it is just so tight and tense and the character moments are beautiful.

Spitfire Parade - I love Bertie’s two chapters and that’s it. I mean, it’s not bad, it’s just kind of hollow. Maybe because the other chapters are mostly parcelled off to people I don’t really know or care about or even particularly like that much. Which is unlike the WW1 short story books where it’s all tightly focussed on Biggles. (I understand that it’s because WE Johns just repurposed a WW1 Biggles book for the new characters of 666, but I still don’t love the result.)

Foreign Legionnaire was honestly so boring for the first 80% (bar a couple of cute moments). I did feel like the siege made up for it though! If only WE Johns could have written the book so it was 20% set up and 80% siege ;)

I’ve not read any of the Gimlet books, but I am also obsessed with [personal profile] tweague’s Burning Bridges, and want to read the Gimlet books on that basis alone! The rec above for Gimlet Goes Home is also a lovely motivator, because I am also just a simple human, easily satisfied with some quality whump :) (And I really feel like I would enjoy seeing Gimlet whump!)

Date: 2024-09-24 09:29 am (UTC)
tweague: An image of an iron age spearhead with La Tene style decoration (Default)
From: [personal profile] tweague
Ha, in the course of writing this comment I've just realised I totally ran 'Gimlet Goes Home' and 'Gimlet Mops Up' together into one book in my head :S Probably mostly because I don't think Gimlet really goes home in 'Goes Home', whereas he does go home in 'Mops Up', which is confusing.

Seconding the rec for 'Goes Home' if you do intend to read any, as it does have some very good whump (whump so good it makes the cover art!!) - though Gimlet notably doesn't appear in the first few chapters, which might not make it an ideal one to start with. 'Mops Up' is the one with the (sadly metaphorical) werewolves, and I think also had some good whump?? Also an amazing cover illustration, which confusingly is a spoiler for the end of the book. Also guest appearances by Biggles and Ginger. Also (AFAIR) a certain amount of faffing about on Gimlet's estate (he has to go home for the annual prize-giving in the village hall, which is just the *most* Wodehouse set up), which I think I enjoyed.

Date: 2024-09-24 07:37 am (UTC)
black_bentley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] black_bentley
I re-read Orient recently and I'd forgotten how good it is, it really does just crackle along brilliantly.

More Marcel is always needed, as is more Steeley :DDD

Date: 2024-09-24 09:33 am (UTC)
tweague: An image of an iron age spearhead with La Tene style decoration (Default)
From: [personal profile] tweague
I am shortly to hit 'Foreign Legionnaire' in my vS reread, so if you happen to have any recs/suggestions for fics set around it, I would be extremely interested!

Date: 2024-09-24 10:09 am (UTC)
philomytha: airplane flying over castle (biggles castle)
From: [personal profile] philomytha
I feel like you could take your pick of any of these: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Book:%20Biggles%20Foreign%20Legionnaire/works

Two of them are by me, two of them are for me, and the other two might as well have been for me because I love them!

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